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Post by fizzycola on May 27, 2009 20:29:47 GMT
from speedtv.com
Williams has been suspended from the Formula One Teams' Association.
Until now, every team on the grid has been united under the FOTA banner, but on Monday it emerged that the Oxfordshire based team broke ranks and signed up for the 2010 world championship.
Despite the looming May 29 deadline, the other teams - led by Ferrari - are for now holding off amid the dispute with the sport's ruling bodies.
After a FOTA meeting in London on Wednesday, Williams revealed in a statement that the other teams decided to "temporarily suspend" the British outfit.
"FOTA's decision, although regrettable, is understandable," said team boss Sir Frank Williams.
"However, as a racing team and a company whose only business is Formula One, with obligations to our partners and our employees, submitting our entry to next year's championship was unquestionable.
"In addition, we are legally obliged under our contract with FOM and the FIA to participate in the world championship until the end of 2012," Williams added.
fizzy
I've never heard of a team being cut off like this ever before!
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Post by fizzycola on May 27, 2009 20:31:32 GMT
It's real close to the 29th deadline now... who will sign at the last minute? Will an agreement be reached? I sure hope so
fizzy
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Post by fizzycola on May 27, 2009 21:09:31 GMT
Ok so who has applied for next year........
Campos (who ever they are!!) and USF1 (but apparantly have to have a new name as I read somewhere that Bernie wrote to them saying they could not use the F1 bit as he owns the rights to that, sorry I can't find the link)
And Williams
Brawn and Force India ae expected to be really late entrants.
fizzy
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Post by susieq on May 27, 2009 21:16:05 GMT
What happens if they don't sign, as most of the big teams are signed up to 2012? FIA take them all to court? Surely if they have an agreement until then, should the FIA change the terms and conditions which they do on a regular basis then the teams can pull out!
This is dire!!
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Post by fizzycola on May 27, 2009 21:33:38 GMT
I just don't know susieq... But it's not looking good is it  fizzy |
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Post by susieq on May 27, 2009 23:09:27 GMT
It's not looking good at all, and I can't see either side backing down.
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Post by knightelcid on May 28, 2009 3:24:36 GMT
I think it is pretty simple. In order to be against MM and Bernie you must stick together as one..unity makes the force. If we have 2 or 3 teams doing their own thing then it will be chaos and that is not good for the sport. FOTA must agree to fight together against the 'evil empire' otherwise if they show a little indication of weakness..it will be all over.
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Post by blacktulip on May 28, 2009 14:36:37 GMT
I agree 100% El Cid united they stand divided they fall.
lets rememver if Max and Bernie have no teams then they have no F1 as for Bernie owning the F1 name, whats to stop you calling it Formula Team or Formula Sport and so on.
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Post by blacktulip on May 28, 2009 14:37:22 GMT
Lets also remember Frank Williams is noted for doing stupid things all his life
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Post by seabassfan on May 29, 2009 8:55:44 GMT
Frank Williams may be "known for doing stupid things all his life", but- with Ferrari losing the injunction against "napolean, jr. and 'the l'il nazi"- it's getting time to try desperate things to try and stop those 2 idiots. It's already looking like there might not be a race (next year) in England{home to a lot, if not most, of the teams}. Williams has always been a strictly formula 1 racing team. As for USF1- Bernie can stick that decision where the sun hasn't shone in decades. He should be told that the teams are Formula 1- not his wrinkly old butt- I mean arse!!  |
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Post by blacktulip on May 30, 2009 17:39:11 GMT
how right you are but it now seems they all signed at the last minute, which will make bernie feel 3" taller than he is, I thought they should have called his bluff because without the teams BERNIE AND max are nothing, infact it could have bankrupt them
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Post by blacktulip on May 30, 2009 17:40:54 GMT
From ITV Sport
All nine FOTA teams have submitted entries for next year’s world championship, averting the prospect of a mass boycott of Formula 1 by the sport’s established names.
The Formula One Teams' Association issued a statement on Friday afternoon stating that all its members would commit to F1 through to 2012 – provided they receive guarantees about the sport’s future governance, and that the FIA accepts FOTA's modifications to the controversial budget cap proposal.
The announcement marks an apparent breakthrough in the long-running dispute between the teams’ alliance and the FIA, although much will depend on the governing body’s response to FOTA’s pre-conditions.
The most striking of these is a demand that a new Concorde Agreement – long sought by F1’s commercial ringmaster Bernie Ecclestone – must be signed by all parties by June 12, when the FIA has said it will publish the list of confirmed participants in the 2010 season.
FOTA is seeking a formal contract to give greater stability over the rule-making process, having been unhappy with the way recent rule changes were pushed through the FIA World Council, bypassing teams and other stakeholders represented on the F1 Commission.
In return for such guarantees, the teams will pledge their allegiance to F1 for the next three years – an undertaking that appears to scotch rumours that Toyota was on the verge of quitting the sport.
FOTA’s other major proviso concerns the technical regulations to be adopted for 2010, which it says must be based on this year's rules subject to the amendments it has proposed in a submission to the FIA.
FOTA did not release details of these amendments but they are believed to include the phasing-in or dilution of the budget cap, with tight spending curbs to be delayed until 2011, and offsetting measures designed to ensure prospective new teams can compete in the higher-spending initial year.
The FOTA statement said: “All FOTA teams have today submitted conditional entries for the 2010 FIA Formula One World Championship.
“FOTA confirms all its members’ long-term commitment to be involved in the FIA Formula One World Championship and has unanimously agreed further and significant actions to substantially reduce the costs of competing in the championship in the next three years, creating a mechanism that will preserve the technological competition and the sporting challenge and, at the same time, facilitate the entry in the F1 championship for new teams.
“These measures are in line with what has been already decided in 2009 within FOTA, achieving important saving on engines and gearboxes.
“All FOTA teams have entered the 2010 championship on the basis that: 1) The Concorde Agreement is signed by all parties before 12th June 2009, after which all FOTA teams will commit to competing in Formula One until 2012.
“The renewal of the Concorde Agreement will provide security for the future of the sport by binding all parties in a formal relationship that will ensure stability via sound governance.
“2) The basis of the 2010 regulations will be the current 2009 regulations, amended in accordance with proposals that FOTA has submitted to the FIA.”
FOTA also said it would not countenance a two-tier championship incorporating different sets of regulations, and insisted that all its members' entires must be accepted together or not at all.
The statement said: “All FOTA teams’ entries for the 2010 FIA Formula One World Championship have been submitted today on the understanding that (a) all FOTA teams will be permitted to compete during the 2010 Formula One season on an identical regulatory basis, and (b) that they may only be accepted as a whole.
“All FOTA teams now look forward with optimism to collaborating proactively and productively with the FIA, with a view to establishing a solid foundation on which the future of a healthy and successful Formula One can be built, providing lasting stability and sound governance.”
Williams submitted its 2010 entry last Monday – a move that triggered its suspension from FOTA – so all 10 of the current teams on the F1 grid have now declared their intention to compete in next year's championship.
That leaves space for three new teams, and with Team US F1, Prodrive, Lola and Campos all having confirmed their applications, F1 appears to be over-subsribed for the first time in several years.
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Post by blacktulip on May 31, 2009 19:32:36 GMT
Ferrari team boss Stefano Domenicali says the FOTA teams' decision to enter the 2010 world championship does not mean they are backing down in their battle with the FIA over the planned budget cap.
On Friday the nine outfits still active in the Formula One Teams' Association submitted entries for next year's Formula 1 championship - but with conditions attached.
The teams want a new Concorde Agreement signed and for the FIA to agree that this year's regulations should remain the basis of next season's rules package.
Ferrari was one of several teams that had threatend to pull out of F1 if the FIA went ahead with the planned £40 million voluntary budget cap next year, and Domenicali said the prospect of Ferrari walking away remained very real.
"The answer is simple: the entries from the nine teams will be invalid", he replied when asked what would happens if FOTA's conditions were not met.
He emphasised that Ferrari was still fundamentally opposed to budget capping.
"The request to make the 2009 regulations the starting point, means there will be no budget cap," Domenicali said.
But he added that FOTA did not want to be on a collision course with the FIA and hoped its own new proposals for reducing costs would be sufficiently effective that a budget cap would not be required after all.
"The FIA wants to significantly reduce costs with two objectives: to stop any more existing teams from quitting the sport and to allow for the eventual entry of new teams," said Domenicali.
"Both these targets can be met (under FOTA's plans).
"Costs will be considerably reduced and, at the same time, there will be considerable efforts made by the current competitors in Formula 1 to stay in the sport.
"If this happens and I really hope it does, I would prefer to say that Formula 1 is the winner: it will have kept its main characteristics of technological and sporting competition, it will have been assured of stability in the regulations and the long term commitment of the participants.
"This is what FOTA has always wanted: to work alongside the FIA and the Commercial Rights Holder for a healthy and prosperous Formula 1."
FOTA's decision to submit entries on Friday means that all ten current F1 teams have declared their intention to participate next year, while several potential new teams - including Prodrive, Campos and US F1 - are angling for the three spots in the field that are currently vacant.
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